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peep
 
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Üritasin leida sealt EVO artiklist täpset sõnastust aga ei leidnud. Kuid kuna jutt Nürburgringist ja see on päris ebatasane rada ehk kui masinat viskab pidurdushetkel natuke viltu siis tundub loogiline, et taga asuv mass üritab ennast ettepoole keerata.

Muidu see jutt on EVO 94 numbris ja annab väga hästi edasi feelingu, mida tähendab sõita 24 h. Nürburgringil.

Samas numbris on veel üks netimaailmas laialt arutlemist leidnud võrdlustest: Carrera GT vs. 997 TT vs. Evo FQ-340. Esitati umbes sama küsimus mis siin, et kas raha eest (GT = 3xTT=10xEvo hind)saab rohkem, kui kiirusomadused on samas suurusjärgus ? Ja tulemused olid päris ootuspärased, et saab küll:) aga tore, et on olemas ka odavamaid võimalusi kiiresti sõita.
26.05.2007 at 09:08
Raceboy
 
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Mõistagi, sest kiirestisõitmine ei ole pruugi kallis olla, väga kiiresti sõitmine kipub aga olema. Porsche jt sportautobrändide puhul tuleb lisa maksta ka nime eest, igaühel eraldi suurusjärgus, mis kliendile tavaliselt teadmata on :)

Ennegi tõi Garfield näite, kus ta oma Lada juppides tehtud Estfieldiga sõitis Saugal sama aega pmst 997 Carrera S-iga (šhikaanita 2-3s kiirem, kui ilma). Nende autode vahe on ka vist sinna 10 korra kanti.

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26.05.2007 at 09:59
peep
 
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Pigem maksad ikka emotsiooni eest, mille üks osa on bränd aga sinna alla kuulub veel visuaalne disain, tunnetatav kvaliteet ja hinnalisus, sõidukogemuse mitmekesisus, audioefektid jne.
26.05.2007 at 10:22 1 edit. Last edited 26.05.2007 at 10:23 by peep (Moderator)
-XR-
Autotestid
Ja millegi pärast šikaaniga suure ringi TOP kümnes on esimene evo alles kümendal kohal.
Samas Porgesid mahub ülespoole 4tk.

Ma ei vaidle vastu, et Evod on toredad autod. Eelkõige meeldivad nad mulle jäärajal ja kruusal sõitmiseks.
Aga no ringi peal on Porge ikka omal kohal. Juba kasvõi sellepärast, mida peep ütles.

Ma tahaks tegelikult väga näha mõnda Caymani meie armsal Saugakesel.
Olen suht kindel, et Caymaniga võiks isegi esimese aja välja sõita.
TopGeari tabelis platseerub Cayman ikka väga kõrgel kohal.

Kui Evo 10 tuleb, siis ma olen kindlasti üks esimene, kes proovisõitu tahab ning vbl isegi ostan.
Sveitsis jättis ta päris huvitava mulje. Eelkõige oleks Evo10 mul talveautoks.
26.05.2007 at 10:37 1 edit. Last edited 26.05.2007 at 10:38 by -XR-
Raceboy
 
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Cayman S'i pidasid vast silmas? Sest olles ise mõlemaga sõitnud, pakub Cayman küll päris vahvaid elamusi aga nii pidurid kui mootor jäävad juhitavusele selgelt alla. Isegi Cayman S-i kohta on enamik kommentaare stiilis "ülihea auto, aga jäänud Porsche segmenteerimispoliitika jalgu: mitte olla kiirem 911-st".
Aga sõita on väga fun sellegipoolest.

Seepärast ilmselt kunagi ei tule Cayman Turbo't, nagu ka Boxster Turbo't :(

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26.05.2007 at 10:45
-XR-
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quote:
Raceboy: Cayman S'i pidasid vast silmas? Sest olles ise mõlemaga sõitnud, pakub Cayman küll päris vahvaid elamusi aga nii pidurid kui mootor jäävad juhitavusele selgelt alla. Isegi Cayman S-i kohta on enamik kommentaare stiilis "ülihea auto, aga jäänud Porsche segmenteerimispoliitika jalgu: mitte olla kiirem 911-st".
Aga sõita on väga fun sellegipoolest.

Seepärast ilmselt kunagi ei tule Cayman Turbo't, nagu ka Boxster Turbo't :(

Tavalisele saab ka imho paremad pidurid tellida ja nipet näpet asju.
Top Gear-i tabelis ei ole mu meelest Cayman S-i.

Aga Caymanil on tegelt väga palju potensiaali.


http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/11/ruf-set-to-launch-cayman-based-ctr3-supercar/ <-- Ruf CTR3. Seal on ka veel mõni asi Caymanilt pärit.
26.05.2007 at 10:51 1 edit. Last edited 26.05.2007 at 10:53 by -XR-
peep
 
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Neid Sauga shikaaniga aegu ma küll ei soovitaks mingi referentsina kasutada, numbreid tõlgendades pea arvestama nende tausta.

Standard Evo'ga on see kehv asi, et kruusal temaga sõita ei kannata, ta lihtsalt häviks seal kiirelt ilma vastavate kaitseteta ja ümberehitusteta. Samas igapäevauautole ei tahaks kõiki neid muudatusi teha ja lisaks on ta värvkate nii õhuke, et iga pisike kivike jätab täkke kerele. Ma pole oma autoga veel õieti sõitnudki aga värvitäkkeid on rohkem kui 100 t. läbinud Audil.:(
26.05.2007 at 11:02
peep
 
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Autotestid
Lihtsalt niisama infoks mõned tulemused.

Ring

7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
8:02 --- 153.858 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06)

Hockenheim

1:13.7 --- 127.001 km/h – Porsche 997 Carrera S Kit, 381 PS/1474 kg (sport auto 01/06)
1:14.3 --- 125.976 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355hp/1461kg (sport auto 05/2005)
1:15.5 --- 123.974 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/ 1410 kg (sport auto 01/06)
1:15.7 --- 123.646 km/h - Porsche Boxster S (2005), 280 PS/1406 kg (sport auto 12/04)
1.15.9 --- 123.320 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06)
1:16.2 --- 122.834 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrrera S, 381 PS/1469kg (auto,motor und sport 07/06)
1:16.2 --- 122.834 km/h – Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
1:16.8 --- 121.875 km/h – Porsche 997 Carrera S convertible, 355 PS/1561 kg (sport auto 10/05)
1:16.9 --- 121.717 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 09/06)
1:16.9 --- 121.717 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera, 325 PS/1476kg (sport auto 01/05)
1:17.4 --- 120.930 km/h - Porsche Boxster, 240bhp/1398lkg (sport auto 05/05)
1:17.6 --- 122.193 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355 PS/1469kg (auto,motor und sport 07/06)

Ise teeks järelduse, et meie tasemel pole neil autodel kiiruse poole pealt erilist vahet, selleks peab olema kõva rinkaspets, et kiiremate potensiaal ära kasutada. Antud ajad on sõitnud väga head juhid, kes rada väga hästi tunnevad või lausa sõidujumalad nagu Röhl. Meie jaoks on see tase sama kauge kui kuu maast.



26.05.2007 at 11:21 1 edit. Last edited 26.05.2007 at 11:24 by peep (Moderator)
I.V.B
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Kuidas see Cayman saab 997'ga põhimõtteliselt samaraskune olla? Tekib küsimus, et milles asja mõte ikkagi on lõpuks
27.05.2007 at 14:20
newton
 
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Autotestid
Käkkisin ajaviiteks kokku sellise tüki:

http://www.tqhq.ee/aksel/compare.html

Allikaks on Saksa ajakirja "Sport Auto" põhjalikud "supertestid" - palju võrreldavaid andmeid ja ehk nad siiski ka Itaalia ja USA autodega päris käsipidur peal ei sõida :)

Kui kellelgi on mõne huvitava auto (nt. 997S) kohta veel testide skänne pakkuda, siis ehk lisan siia; mul endal on ka veel mingi hulk, aga need suht erinevad autod (335i, Zonda F, XKR, jne) ja ei hakanud neid praegu panema.

Hoiatuseks/seletuseks veel niipalju, et ringiajad on veidi jaburalt sekundites ja et mitte Z06 pöidlahoidjaid (nagu ma ise :)) kurvastada, siis selle auto kiirendusnumbritest on ka alternatiivversioon, mille sama ajakiri natuke soodsamates oludes välja sõitis ;)

Let the bench racing begin...
28.05.2007 at 21:44
peep
 
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Autotestid
Vinge !:)

Siin üks samalaadne asi, autode valik laiem aga kasutada ebamugavam:

http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp
28.05.2007 at 21:49
newton
 
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Autotestid
Car and Driveri hiljutine kiirete autode test andis ringiaegade võrdluses sellise järjestuse:

1. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - 2:58.2
2. Porsche 911 GT3 - 3:01.8
3. Chevrolet Corvette Z51 - 3:03.6
4. Lotus Exige S - 3:04.5
5. Audi R8 - 3.04.6
6. Porsche 911 Turbo - 3:05.8
7. Ford Shelby GT500 - 3:05.9
+ veel mõned

Täpsemalt:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/13173/the-lightning-lap-2007.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/0708_lightninglap_theresult.pdf
04.07.2007 at 08:43
wirx
  
Autotestid
siin on siis Sport Auto poolt sõidetud ringi ajad läbi aegade
http://www.wirx.ee/porsche/best_road_and_track_car/hockenheim&nordscleife.jpg
http://www.wirx.ee/porsche/best_road_and_track_car/hockenheim.jpg


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26.07.2007 at 00:31
wirx
  
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EVO ajakirja poolt sõidetud ringi ajad Bedfordis
http://www.wirx.ee/porsche/best_road_and_track_car/EVO%20laptimes1.jpg
http://www.wirx.ee/porsche/best_road_and_track_car/EVO%20laptimes2.jpg
"Päris autodest" on selline top5
Porsche Carrera GT
McLaren F1
Ferrari Enzo
Lambo Gallardo SuperLegera
Audi R8!!!
Olgugi, et trapspeed on antud rivis võrdne kart-vormel tüüpi autodega ei ole R8 mass sugugi nendega sarnane...pigem pea 1000kg raskem neist, kuid siiski on Audi end suutnud superautode rivi 5ndale kohale platseeruda Koenigsegg CCX, Porsche GT3RS, Ferrari 599 GTB, Corvette Z06, Porsche 911 Turbo jpt autode ette

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21.08.2007 at 23:22
wirx
  
Autotestid
Nurburgringi parimad ajad
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&bottom=0

Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/nuerburgring-roadmap.html

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK)
www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/nord0905/index.php
www.radicalextremesportscars.com/media/track_race_ring/index.php

7:12* -- 173.600 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 172.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15* -- 170.48 km/h -- 2008 Nissan GT-R, 450 PS/??? kg (*mfr.) provisional entry, www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208327/nissan_gtr.html
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), www.edo-competition.de/fileadmin/MEDIA/VIDEO/nordschleife_runde.avi
www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/ringmeister.html
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004, >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php ,
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg (*mfr.)
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06),
www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=98&page=&type=news,
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h – Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05), www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&mID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.484 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, worls driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 08(07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=137437
7:46.29 159.140 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=111663

7:47* -- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=120285
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=91836
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=129099

7:49 --- 158.124 km/h –- BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine,
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=126501

7:55* -- 156.126 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06),
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* - 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.50 155.594 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.569 km/h -- Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=123445
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&t=16841\
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf

8:01.72 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:01.84 153.984 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, 520 PS/1760 kg, www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=14111&artikel_seite=1
8:02 --- 153.858 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Audi R8, 420 PS/1595 kg (sport auto 07/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=133046


8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ruf CTR, www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/Videos/RUF-CTR_Nurburgring1.wmv
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:07.76 152.041 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06)
8:08.62 151.774 km/h -- HGP Golf R32 Turbo Stufe 3, 495 PS/1660 kg, www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=14071
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10 --- 151.347 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series, 400 PS/1506 kg (sport auto 08/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134706
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC, 285 PS/1418 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h –- BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg,
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05)
8:15* -- 149.818 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.09 149.408 km/h -- Zender A3 Sportback Z440 R, 440 PS/1690 kg, www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=14071
8:16.15 149.471 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:16.52 149.215 km/h -- BMW M6 convertible, 507 PS/2015 kg, www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=14111&artikel_seite=1
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg, www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/225863/
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05),
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.851 km/h – 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Jaguar XKR, 416 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h – BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.93 145.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:30 --- 145.412 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:31.--- 145.130 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg,
8:31.42 145.008 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS
8:33.80 144.336 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 04/01)
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS (sport auto 04/04)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- BMW 130i, 258 PS/1350 kg (Road & Track)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- BMW M3 SMG E36, 321 PS/1515 kg (sport auto 03/97)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé, 426 PS/1635 kg (sport auto 02/02)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS
8:35.93 143.740 km/h – Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., oct,05) record holder compact class
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (sport auto 07/99)
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Performance Kit, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 09/00)
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Porsche Boxster ´03, 228 PS/1370 kg (sport auto 02/03)
8:36.42 143.604 km/h -- BMW M3 EVO, 321hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Maserati 3200GT, 370 PS/1614 kg (sport auto 09/02)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG, (sport auto 09/01)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo, 218 PS/1290 kg (sport auto 03/00)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.0 (sport auto 07/91)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- VW Golf R32 (sport auto 02/03)
8:37.10 143.415 km/h -- Nissan GTR V, 350 pS (Top Gear maagzine)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8, 400 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 12/98)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.2, 280 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 08/97)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL500, 306 PS/1852 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Renault Megane Sport Trophy “sport auto” edition, 225PS/1371 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296hp
8:39 --- 142.890 km/h -- Honda S2000, 240 PS/1275 kg (sport auto 01/00)
8:39 --- 142.890 km/h -- Morgan Aero 8, 286 PS/1193 kg (sport auto 04/03)
8:40 --- 142.615 km/h – Audi TT 2.0 TFSI, 200 PS/1322 kg (sport auto 02/07)
8:40 --- 142.615 km/h -- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40 --- 142.615 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
8:40.30 142.615 km/h – Bentley Continental GT, 560 PS/2385 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
8:41 --- 142.342 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7, 420 PS/1847 kg (sport auto 01/99)
8:41 --- 142.342 km/h -- Audi S3, 210 PS/1489 kg (sport auto 06/99)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Audi S4, 265 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 08/98)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8 quattro w. ESP, 225 PS/1461 kg, (sport auto 07/01)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- BMW Alpina B3 3.3, 280 PS/1495 kg (sport auto 07/99)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 179 PS/796 kg, (sport auto 11/00)
8:43 --- 141.797 km/h -- Honda Integra Type R (sport auto 12/00)
8:44.83 141.303 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Coupe, 339 PS, automatic (Top Gear magazine)
8:46 --- 140.989 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
8:47 --- 140.721 km/h -- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS/1246 kg (sport auto 11/01)
8:48.25 140.388 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 285 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Coupe, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 07/98)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Renault Clio Sport V6, 226 PS/1381 kg (sport auto 07/01)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS/1461 kg (sport auto 11/98)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h – VW Golf V R32, 250 PS/1591 kg (sport auto 09/06),
8:50 --- 139.925 km/h -- BMW Alpina B10 3.2, 260 PS/1600 kg (sport auto 04/98)
8:50* -- 139.925 km/h -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (sport auto ??/00)
8:51 --- 139.661 km/h -- Alfa Romeo 156 GTA, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 05/02)
8:51* -- 139.661 km/h -- Ford Focus ST, 225 PS/1330 kg (sport auto 09/05) (*mfr.)
8:51 --- 139.661 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG, 306 PS/1571 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:52 --- 139.398 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 430, 279 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 09/01)
8:52 --- 139.529 km/h -- VW Golf GTI DSG, 200 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 11/05)
8:54 --- 138.897 km/h -- Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 kg (sport auto 01/97)
8:54 --- 138.932 km/h -- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary, 180 hp, 1320 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:55 --- 134.579 km/h -- Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp (sport auto ??/04)
8:58 --- 133.829 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (sport auto 07/97)

9:05* -- 136.073 km/h -- Ford Focus RS, 215 PS/1355 kg (sport auto 09/05)(*mfr.)
9:07 --- 135.576 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 230, 195 PS/1356 kg (sport auto 05/01)
9:07 --- 135.576 km/h -- AMG Mercedes SLK 230 compressor (sport auto 05/99)
9:09 --- 135.802 km/h --VW Golf V6 4Motion, 204 PS/1455 kg (sport auto 01/02)
9:46.20 126.50 km/h -- VW Polo GTI, 150 PS/1245 kg; www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Sportscars-Treibjagd-durchs-Gruene_319094.html
10:08 -- 121.973 km/h --Ford Transit, 136 PS/??? Kg, Sabine Schmitz (Top Gear TV, jul,10 05)
11:00 -- 110.885 km/h -- Karmann Colorado RS mobile home, 298 PS/???, Sabine Schmitz (07/06)
11:27.50 107.879 km/h -- Mercedes G55 AMG, 500 PS/2600 kg; www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Sportscars-Treibjagd-durchs-Gruene_319094.html


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25.08.2007 at 12:25
imre
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Mida see lühend *mfr tähendab? Kas seda, et rada märg/niiske või mitteametlik aeg?
29.08.2007 at 16:50
newton
 
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mfr = manufacturer e. tootja poolt väidetud aeg
29.08.2007 at 17:20
jura
Autotestid
Evo X nüüd ka siis lõpuks autoajakirjanikele kätte antud... kuidagi jääb kõlama see, mida karta veidi oli, et pole enam nii vahetu auto, kui eelkäia.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=122744
25.09.2007 at 19:16
devilc
Moderator
Autotestid
2.4 km rajal kaks sekundit kiirem kui Evo IX? Whoa.
25.09.2007 at 22:36
peep
 
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Autotestid
997 GT2 Sport Auto supertestis:

quote:
Nurburgring: 7:33 --- 163.708 km/h

as fast as the Zonfa F and only a second slower than the CGT, the 530 bhp Porsche GT2 clearly demonstrates what is is capable of, a perfect handling and the highest limits for the road-going and most powerful 911 ever!


Hockenheim short track: 1:10.0* -- 133.714 km/h

time is only an estimation as not all the sectors were available for testting that day. But this time is abloutely realistic, a 2nd test will show if it is a low 10 or a high 9 at the end.

thsi would be faster than the Zonda F and nearly as fast as the CGT, Koenisgegg CCR or the TechArt GT street before.


0-200-0 km/h: 16.3 secs.

evenb w/o launch control is has a lot of traction and so lines up with the even more powerful LP640 and is faster than CLK DTM AMG or Ford GT


aerodynmaics:

cd=0.32
9 kg and 29 kg downforce at 200 km/h in front/rear

very well balanced, even though it produces so much downforce it reaches a top speed of 330 km/h, the aerodynmic setup also explains the perfect handling and stability at sppeds above 200 km/h


max. lat. accelewration: 1.35g

suspension works perfect, it shows absolutexl no obersteer and always alows a perfect control of the car in motion.

1.35g with Michelin Pilot Cup sport tyres is the same level as the CGT, Gallardo SL, F430


specs:
530 PS at 6,500 rpm
680 Nm at 4,500 rpm
3,600 ccm
147.2 PS/litre

Michelin Pilot Cup sport
235/35 ZR 19 and 325/30 ZR 19 in front/rear

380/350 mm ventilated ceramic disk brakes in front/rear

MSRP: 189,496 EUR

1497 kg
357 bhp/ton

0-100 km/h: 3.8 s
0-160 km/h: 7.7 s
0-200 km/h: 11.5 s

Vmax: 329 km/h


18m slalom: 72.6 km/h

36m slalom: 139 km/h

faster and so better handling than the CCR (138 km/h), Zonda F (137 km/h) Gallardo SL (136 km/h)


110m evasion test: 157 km/h

a perfect 10, as good handling and respodning as the CGT, even better than the GT street or LP640, only beaten by the Zonda F (159 km/h), the CCR (158 km/h) and 997 GT3 (158 km/h)


wet handling: 1:29.7

again, a perfect handling but due to turbo boost not as neutral as expected
LP 640 (1:29.2
Z06 (1:30.3)
997 Turbo (1:31.6)
599 GTB (1:31.8)


verdict: 78 out of 80 possible pts.

best result ever, the most powerful and best handling 911 ever opens anew chapter in history, best result ever in sport auto supertest, taking the lead on front of the CGT and GT3 RS (both 77 pts.), the LP650 (76), the Zonda F (75) and the CCR (74)

a perfect 10, a prefect super sportscar for the dialy driver, very reliable, easy to to control, offering a lot of fun"

Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.32 min
Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 7.32,52 min
Pagani Zonda F ----------------------------- 7.33 min
Porsche 997 GT2 ----------------------------------------- 7.33 min
Koenigsegg CCR --------------------------- 7.34 min ( Swedish power )
Porsche 997 TechArt GT street (630hp) -------------------- 7.39 min
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.40 min (wet track)
Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 7.43 min
Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 7.44 min
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera --------------------------- 7.46 min
Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 7.46 min
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 -------------------------------- 7.47 min
Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.47 min
Ferrari 599 GTB -----------------------------------------------7.47 min
Porsche 997 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R-tire)
Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R compound tires)
Corvette C6 Z06 ------------------------------------------ 7.49 min

Ehk tehas suudab sama või parema tulemuse saavutada 70-100 vähema hj. kui tuunijad. Siin avaldub tootearendusse investeeritavate summade vahe ja pakun, et natukene ka hr. Röhl'i isiklik panus.:)

GT2 tundub olevat hüperautode maailmas selgelt võitja hetkel, CGT performance + tava 911 kasutusomadused "soodsa" hinnaga.
19.10.2007 at 20:15 1 edit. Last edited 19.10.2007 at 20:16 by peep (Moderator)
devilc
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Autotestid
quote:
peep: GT2 tundub olevat hüperautode maailmas selgelt võitja hetkel, CGT performance + tava 911 kasutusomadused "soodsa" hinnaga.

Saab näha, mis uus 430 Scuderia teha suudab - seni on sellest igal pool ülivõrdes kirjutatud: Fiorano rajal sama kiire kui Enzo jne.
20.10.2007 at 17:54
peep
 
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Scuderia on hetkel müüdavatest superautodest minu isiklik lemmik aga millegipärast arvan, et Nürburgringi peal on ta aeglasem kui GT2. Päris ringrajal on nad ehk sama kiired aga mulle tundub, et Porsche "maalähedasem" konstruktsioon on pigem kehvemapoolsele (L-Euroopa mõistes) asfalteele sarnaneval Ringil eeliseks. Samas tavaline F430 sõitis 7.55 ja 997 TT aeg on 7.54 ehk kui hardcore versioonid on sama võrdsed, siis why not ? Kaua pole ilmselt oodata vaja.
24.10.2007 at 15:41
-XR-
Autotestid
quote:
peep: Scuderia on hetkel müüdavatest superautodest minu isiklik lemmik aga millegipärast arvan, et Nürburgringi peal on ta aeglasem kui GT2. Päris ringrajal on nad ehk sama kiired aga mulle tundub, et Porsche "maalähedasem" konstruktsioon on pigem kehvemapoolsele (L-Euroopa mõistes) asfalteele sarnaneval Ringil eeliseks. Samas tavaline F430 sõitis 7.55 ja 997 TT aeg on 7.54 ehk kui hardcore versioonid on sama võrdsed, siis why not ? Kaua pole ilmselt oodata vaja.


Nürburgringi all mõeldakse tavaliselt siis seda suurt turismi atraktsiooni (ilma GP rajata, mis on 24h sõitudel kasutusel koos suuure rajaga,
mis on nagu maantee, mille nimi peaks tegelt Nordschleife olema?
Nürburgring ise on tegelikult vägagi päris ringrada, seal ju toimus isegi suht hiljuti F1 etapp.
Selle päris Nürburgringi peal on minu mõtte järgi Scuderia kiirem, sest seal on väga aeglaseid kurve ja pole niiii pikki sirgeid nagu Nordschleife peal.

24.10.2007 at 17:00 2 edits. Last edited 24.10.2007 at 17:01 by -XR-
Jesper
 
Autotestid
OT, aga kogu kupatus on ikka Nürburgring, GP rada on afaik kuidagimoodi ikka ringi osa, lihtsalt tavaelus ei saa päris tervet ringi ära teha. Nimetus Nordschleife on ajalooline jäänuk, kunagi oli olemas ka Südschleife, aga see on hetkel vist tavaline maantee vms ja seal ei sõideta võidu. Enamasti tähendab nimetus Nürburgring ikka kogu hetkel võidusõiduks kasutatavat rada, kui mõeldakse GP rada siis ka nii öeldakse ja kui mõeldakse "turistiatraktsiooni", siis ei saa rääkida ringiaegadest, sest seal ei saa tervet ringi sõita.
24.10.2007 at 17:42 1 edit. Last edited 24.10.2007 at 17:44 by Jesper
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Jesper: OT, aga kogu kupatus on ikka Nürburgring, GP rada on afaik kuidagimoodi ikka ringi osa, lihtsalt tavaelus ei saa päris tervet ringi ära teha. Nimetus Nordschleife on ajalooline jäänuk, kunagi oli olemas ka Südschleife, aga see on hetkel vist tavaline maantee vms ja seal ei sõideta võidu. Enamasti tähendab nimetus Nürburgring ikka kogu hetkel võidusõiduks kasutatavat rada, kui mõeldakse GP rada siis ka nii öeldakse ja kui mõeldakse "turistiatraktsiooni", siis ei saa rääkida ringiaegadest, sest seal ei saa tervet ringi sõita.

imho enamasti tähendab ainult "maantee" osa ilma GP osata.
24.10.2007 at 18:00
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